I call bullshit. they’ve gotten rid of daylight savings and the 12-hour clock in most of Asia, but it’ll never happen in Europe. democracy doesn’t work like that. bullshit
Seems like EU members are currently mostly split on whether to keep summer time or the other the default (so the current system will stay)
Could they not move it to a halfway point between the two?
Meanwhile, Ohio wants to keep DST as their standard which is infuriating.
I understand wanting more light in the northern hemisphere early in the day. It adds safety for school children mostly in the winter months, but I don’t understand why we can’t just change the start and end times of school to coordinate more light at those crucial times of day.
Thankyou, I thought I was crazy because no one else sees this most obvious solution. Why do we need DST at all? If you are a farmer or a school or whatever then just change your start time as necessary. Changing the time itself for everyone twice a year is a daft approach.
DST would lead to less light in the morning, more in the afternoon, if they keep it year round. Winter is already standard time.
Personally, I prefer DST for the additional light in the afternoon. Maybe the start time of every school and employer could be changed to be an hour earlier with Standard Time, but sounds a lot easier to just keep DST year round.
It could be considered easier on a social level but makes it an I technological nightmare considering everything is based on standard time in IT systems.
Who gives a fuck about ohio?
Who the fuck cares about DST? My bad for sharing an opinion on the internet, but go ahead and keep hating from across the pond.
I mean, we are in c/Europe
As a programmer, DST creates tons of bugs for anything using time and is annoying. But whatever, I guess I get paid either way.
As a parent, DST is miserable. It’s miserable as an adult, also, but multiplied misery when you have to get up early to ruin your kid’s sleep. And then that night they’re not ready to suddenly go to sleep an hour early so you lose an extra hour…
I hope Poland succeeds.
Programmer as well and fuck that shit.
My cats are used to a very specific schedule… now they’re gonna wake me up 1 hour early for the next many weeks. Great!
I wonder if the sleep-change fucks up our brains and that’s why more people aren’t upset about it.
Until this comment, I’d completely forgotten about how the most recent time-change messed up me and the puppy I’ve been training, because of course she needs to pee as soon as she wakes up at 6am every day…
Ain’t that right. Going through it with our first this week and I get it. Of course the little guy is ticked off. He’s feeling all of the confusion and tiredness we are without knowing or enjoying any of the benefits.
Yea people don’t realize there are several different start/ends to it all over the world, not just 1 “everyone change it” and tons of special cases too. Terrible
the act of changing clocks twice a year is profoundly fucked up to people’s circadian rhythms .
as well as the government deciding for you, what time it is, is kind of orwellian when i think about it.
i want my body to adapt naturally to the sync of the sun, i think we all could use a little bit more nature.
As a programmer, I would never put anything except UTC or Unix time into a computer program or database. The front end can show the user whatever localized bullshit they want to see.
Most of the time, yes, but not always. Sometimes you actually need local time stored rather than UTC. Simple example: alarm clock. User wants to be waken up at 7:00. No matter if it is summer time or winter time. Even if they travels to a different time zone - still will want to be waken up in the morning. If we store this time as UTC much more unnecessary and error-prone conversions will be needed. Similar issues may arise with other calendar events. Of course, at some point this will be converted to UTC for comparison with actual point in time.
Everyone wants this and it’s taking decades…
Sure, but then the question is: Winter time or summer time?
I’m not sure if the European people are equally united in this question.
I don’t know if many people share my opinion, but I literally don’t care one bit. Let’s all do UTC across the world, the US needs to be taken down a peg anyway.
Surely UTC is just a newer name for GMT and 0 is Greenwich in England? Since I’m pretty sure the UK came up with the global time zone system in the first place.
There is a slight difference, UTC has leap seconds while GMT stretches seconds to compensate for the uneven spin of the Earth.
I’ve never been bothered by the time changing twice a year, why do people want to abolish it so much?
It leads to statistically significant increases in human death, injury, and financial loss due to stress caused by disruptions to circadian rhythm. The question you should be asking is “why do we still do it despite this, when there is literally no benefit?”
The benefit is more sun. Permanent normal time would give us sunrise at 5 am in summer while permanent offset time would give us sunrise at 9 am in winter. By changing the time twice a year we get 6 am and 8 am.
What’s so special about sunrise though? The sunset influences our lives greatly as well. I understand 8am is better than 9am for outdoor workers, because they can start working at the same time as other people.
Getting up when the sun rises feels much better than getting up in darkness
I don’t care as much about sunset, I’m still awake after sunset anyway
That probably depends on where you live and what’s your job. For many people it’s impossible to get up after the sun rises anyway, if they want to be at work on time. I can imagine it could be locally advantageous though.
I also much prefer the sun rising 1h after I got up than 2h after I got up. Or just seeing the first signs of dawn as Im driving to work
