Incredible to think about that we got it right the first time (with email) and still had to spend the last 20 years complaining about centralized social networks.

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    This is a terrible distribution and the semi-centralisation and gatekeeping by the established actors is one of the reason email is dying.

    I think we can do much better than that 👍

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    For fucks sake, have the 0 at the twelve o clock position and not this horrible mess. This ruins one’s day.

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    I really do want to point out, Gmail is gonna get a massive lead as time goes on.
    Doing parental consent forms for my schools library, most of the parents email were yahoo, Hotmail, etc. but EVERY SINGLE student email was Gmail, with the exception of like 10 out of (at least) 300 pages

    (edit: to clarify, 300 pages is 300 emails)

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      Been on Gmail since it was invite only. It really is best in class. Hate on Google all ya like, but they got a lock on email early in the game.

      And for those that think getting away from it is a matter of choosing another email provider, I’ll say that Gmail does loads more than deliver email. Authentication is a huge and obvious use. Reading comments around here leads me to believe that many don’t understand Google for Business and how integrated an org can be with those services.

      Another note, just because the domain isn’t gmail.com doesn’t mean it isn’t served by Google. For most companies it would be insane to host their own services and cheaper to let Google handle it all.

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        The raw SMTP landscape on the internet is such a shitshow. Setting up a SMTP server requires so many goddamn condoms that you might as well just give up and start using some other professional email service. Or you set it up just to forward email to a GMail account, and even then, Gmail bitches about how much spam you’re forwarding it and blocks you for a time.

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          @p03locke @shalafi i have a primary email that uses a TLD released in 2014. I use it for any mails that aren’t e.g. government or financial. The number of systems/servers/transports that haven’t been updated to accept it is quite an annoyance.
          I avoid email anyway.

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    The thing about email is that the software is proprietary. Each of these providers has their own implementation of the interface, features, and integration with their tools (Google drive, photos, etc).

    As long as lemmy servers run lemmy software, this won’t happen, or at least won’t be an issue as you can move to another server and not have to change your usage habits.

    However if some server owners decide to fork Lemmy and develop their proprietary server, overhaul the UI, add features and attract users, it will start to become a problem.

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      Lemmy’s AGPL license doesnt allow forking the code into a proprietary server. All changes need to be open source as well, otherwise the operator can get sued. So a proprietary Lemmy software would have to be developed from scratch which would take a long time.

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    federation and the concept of communities have always been a little awkward together since it’s based on sunreddits where there is only one always.

    The only ways this pans out is with having one server where the community is most successful to eat up the others or having like two or three who hate each other