It’s brief, around 25:15

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nf7XHR3EVHo


If you’ve been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they’re excited about the idea. I’ve really enjoyed reading through them :)

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    I wish he had mentioned Lemmy, but it’s understandable that he didn’t. Also Bluesky isn’t an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn’t stealing so much of our publicity lately.

    But beggars can’t be choosers, and we have seen some nice growth over the past couple months. John Oliver fans are the perfect candidates to join the fediverse, hopefully some of them find their way to Lemmy.

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        I’m really not happy about bluesky their fragmentation of the fediverse protocols

        shrug, I wish they were with us, but they are also a big ole corporate entity, so I’m kind ok with us staying our our side of the fence. As they need to implement payment and corporate protections to their network, we’re free to be free over here.

        is only going to harm us in the long run.

        We don’t have to play ball. not with them anyway,

        I think, If we have any credible threat, it’s going to be from the Governmental gross anti-tampering laws, forced moderation, or backup regulations. They could make it legally difficulty for us to exist.

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          I think, If we have any credible threat, it’s going to be from the Governmental gross anti-tampering laws, forced moderation, or backup regulations. They could make it legally difficulty for us to exist

          This. I have considerable concern that Fascists will straight up ban Fedi if enough people shift to it. They don’t like not being able to control everything, Fedi is far too much actual freedom of communication.

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              You make laws like the Online Safety Act in the UK. You then attach a multi-million dollar fine to anyone who doesn’t adhere to the bonkers unenforceable stipulations in the text.

              All of a sudden, no one but a corporation with a legal department can safely run an instance without putting their money and eventually freedom on the line.

              They might not be able to just stop it, but you can force us into a pirate scenario where we have to do it in the dark.

              We are likely starting to slowly head into 1984 territory. IF Fascim continues to rise, eventually, non-state-run media will be deemed unlawful and they’ll do what they can to make it go away.

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      Also Bluesky isn’t an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn’t stealing so much of our publicity lately.

      This; I’m so sick of hearing it pop up when people mention alternatives.

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        I’m not sure anyone mentions bluesky as an alternative to big tech.

        Pretty sure they only mention it as an alternative to musk/X.

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          This right here, the everyday person doesn’t know what federation is let alone believes that it’s an alternative to federated platforms. They see it as a better Twitter that’s not run by Musk and honestly that’s all they need to know.

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      Agreed, but at least Bluesky is a public benefit corporation, so it supposed to take in the needs of society as well as profit in its decision-making. That may not be much, but it’s a start.

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        I’m not familiar with the details of that, but it seems like more of a red herring to me. A form of controlled opposition to divert people away from truly revolutionary platforms.

        Of course it has to seem like a plausible alternative, but is it actually decentralized or altruistic enough to make a meaningful difference? I think not.

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          “Public benefit corporation” is such an oxymoron, I know it’s cliché to say this but it reads like something out of 1984.

          If your goal is truly to benefit the public, why wouldn’t you start a non-profit? It’s because they want profits, which will always be at odds with the interests of the public.

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        “Public benefit corporation” is a meaningless designation. All it means is they have the option of putting their mission over their shareholders, not that they are obligated to do so.

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      Do you really think Lemmy could handle the amount of people that Reddit has?

      As far as I know the existing instances are usually running on capacity and always in need of donations, and that’s when the owner isn’t handling the costs themselves. I’m not sure how well most instances have right now.

      Maybe Lemmy would benefit of some way to get people to pay, such as purchasing the ability to give people awards etc. like Reddit. Despite being useless stuff, it might provide some fun that would make hardcore users want to pay. But for that to work out, all apps would also need to show the posts awarded in a different way, so I think that’s unlikely.

      But the point is that without a business model, the Fediverse will only be able to handle a limited number of enthusiasts before it faces scaling problems.

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        LW definitely can’t handle more traffic than it already has. It already (thanks to the admins’ refusal to update to the latest version of Lemmy, which fixes this issue) takes multiple days for LW content to get federated to other instances properly, which is why I’ve had to switch over to this alt account of mine because there are zero comments on this post in my main instance. With more users, that delay would grow from days to potentially weeks.

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        Do you really think Lemmy could handle the amount of people that Reddit has?

        yup. no question. Not one instance mind you, but Reddit is also a giant cluster. (and clusterfuck)

        As far as I know the existing instances are usually running on capacity and always in need of donations,

        We just need the big bois to stop stuffing themselves. There’s 0 reason to have 2/3 of the totally traffic flooding into world because people are scared of Federation that they never even have to deal with.

        Maybe Lemmy would benefit of some way to get people to pay, such as purchasing the ability to give people awards etc.

        Maybe we make some premium pay servers with baller architecture, killer response time, user capacity limits and high speed storage?

        But the point is that without a business model, the Fediverse will only be able to handle a limited number of enthusiasts before it faces scaling problems.

        Eventually, it’s going to be ads, donations or payments. It’s all someone else’s computer, someone has to foot the bill. But at great scale, you should be able to have an ad-free experience for something in the range a dollar or two a month.

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          I wouldn’t mind having some ads, but I wonder how some more extremists users would react.

          But I strongly believe that depending on donations is a very tough place to be, it places the burden of “begging” on the instance owners, which are already doing all the work and should definitely be compensated somehow.

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        We still shouldn’t be doing the dirty work of rich people for them.

        We should all be promoting Mastodon over the centralized and corporate-owned bluesky.

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      mastodon is already the next twitter, bluesky is just a direct copy of it with nothing keeping it from going the same way. mastodon is open source (can’t be corpoed), federated (can talk to other platforms/instances so being on a small one doesn’t hurt anything), and most importantly, uses a protocol that doesn’t make self-hosting impossible due to storage requirements.

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      Why bluesky instead of mastodon? It’s like saying lemmy.world is going to replace reddit instead of the Lemmy platform.

      Are you just commenting how the people who use something like twitter are eager to be herded like sheep into the next walled garden?

      Are you part of the bluesky viral marketing campaign to make it artificially seem like it’s “already won”?

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        I’m wondering this too People are hyped about bluesky but it is the same corpo bullshit that Twitter is. I mean it is literally by the same dude. Why fold?,

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          Bizarre that you and that other guy thought “will become the next Twitter” was some sort of praise. It’s not.

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            I think it’s more bizarre that you think “same corpo bullshit that Twitter is” is some kind of praise.

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    Does that Late Show Last Week Tonight with John Oliver have a presence in the Fediverse?

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      Someone on mastodon told me, if you haven’t found someone on fedi, you are probably not looking hard enough. But no, I don’t think they are on fedi

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        Someone is wrong lol. NFL, for example, cannot do anything outside of Twitter at this time. They are apparently working on it, but it’s gotta be implemented league-wide, so it’s taking some time. Idk if they’re even trying to get onto Mastodon, last I heard it was just Bluesky.

        This is a large org with hundreds of millions of fans, with no presence on Fediverse really. I’m sure there are mirror accounts, but none are official.

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        There is a Firefox extension that does automatically (although it seems to be a bit unreliable). Maybe someone can extract that part into a library and make a not with it.

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    It’s crazy how the wind changed. Does anyone remeber the almost exact same thing 4 years ago, when people on the right side of political spectrum shared alternatives to big tech from their point ov view? GAB.COM, PARLER, BRAVE, DUCKDUCKGO etc

    XD

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    I feel like the DNC are being pushed into a blindspot for the general public.

    All Bernie has done is go around to speak at different events, and he is far from the only politician to do so.

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      It’s what the DNC wants. They want to only be seen as the “lesser evil” to people like trump.

      They genuinely have no interest in helping the working class, because they’re not a part of it.

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        Socialized healthcare, removing money from politics, and taxing the rich is not “the lesser evil” it’s fucking good. It’s blatantly a force of great good that we keep snubbing and blaming for no reason at all.

        What we should be doing is giving them majorities and supermajorities and praising them for the great work they do.