Well this news helped motivate me to overwrite my Windows 10 install with Linux Mint as of yesterday. So far so good.
This is what forced me onto Linux for the first time, and permanently.
It’s partly great, mostly fine, and 10% of the time god damn fucking annoying. Mostly having to learn the fucking game of thrones factions of installing things.
But I don’t feel like there’s a piece of shit company in my computer trying to completely ruin it, so it’s a win. The positives outweigh the negatives, even as someone who wasn’t really into the idea of switching.
But even if it was half as good, it would still be an improvement, given Microsoft destroying itself.
@jaggedrobotpubes @zdhzm2pgp have you considered Mint. It’s almost as user friendly as Windows.
The only thing I haven’t been able to work out is SMB sharing which I need for my server that currently runs Windows and for my Jellyfin server.
Recall the time when Windows came on a DVD, had no Microsoft account option on install, no ads in settings nor in the startup menu, no AI slop.
It was still shit, but it feels shittier now, and harder to setup and configure in a way that’s bearable.
Unfortunately most users don’t care about privacy, they only move then (subscriptions) prices rises
I’m reading this on a Microsoft Surface that I flashed with Linux Mint. Quite satisfying!
Message to Microsoft:🖕
Listen, telling other members of a privacy community on lemmy to “just switch to Linux bro” is an enormous waste of time. What this problem needs is outreach beyond tech communities. Ever see those basic ass shorts on Facebook or whatever for “top 7 tips and tricks for becoming an Excel master”? That’s the stupid shit this problem needs. Some broccoli haired tiktoker needs to get in front of people and show them that Linux is not scary. That people have a third option aside from Windows and Mac.
Then, when increasing groups of confused people filter into these threads asking how to uninstall an app, we need to be fucking nice and not admonish them for being new. Lead them through the DE, not CLI. Seriously, want to break 5-6% of OS marketshare? Hold people’s hand through it.
After that, then maybe…just maybe, the likes of Autodesk and Adobe will perk up and start supporting Linux.
Personally I’m tired of people telling disgruntled Windows users to switch to Linux.
Linux is not your backup plan, it’s not a “Windows alternative”. Yes, there are projects out there that try to make Linux easier for Windows users, and honestly they can fuck right off. Way too many people are trying to dumb down this incredibly powerful operating system to expand the market into the “gamers” and the “grannies who want to browse the web and send e-mail”.
Just… just stop.
Yeah,there is one dude in the Linux group here that is just a complete jackass. Half answers your question, and most of it is just telling you a line of code with no other input and basically treating you like an ass hole for even asking. I don’t remember his name, I have him blocked, but absolutely hated seeing Linux posts with this fucking turd each time. Very demeaning and completely ruins the community. I feel like his personality is just trash and he’s always in a “roll your eyes / deep sigh” mood.
You’ve described like…half the IT guys I’ve worked with over the years. You’ve got them on one side, and the super awesome, slap you on the back fun IT guy. Nothing in between.
There’s one (at least) of them in every special interest group.
I’m halfway competent, spent 10 years in IT and even compiled my own kernel back in the early 2000s.
My last 3 attempts at running Ubuntu turned into complete and utter failures, including having to totally reinstall the system over the top of itself because the system became so corrupted it wouldn’t even boot.
And, I barely got steam to work on it. I wasted hundreds of hours and ended up with a barely functional computer that couldn’t print, didn’t support my computers wifi card, and 90% of my work programs aren’t available.
Oh, and someone please support AMD video cards.
I don’t think this community is a stronghold of linux, as you can see in the comments. We need to start from somewhere.
A. Fuck Adobe
B. I tend to direct people to Linux Mint. It’s so user friendly and similar to Windows its perfect for the Windows Refugees to start out with. It’s what I installed two months ago after having used Windows since Windows 95.I want to dump Adobe very badly but it’s still the industry standard for creative firms everywhere
- Illustrator
- InDesign
- Photoshop
- AutoCAD
- Revit
- Civil3D
- ReCap Pro
- Outlook
- Bluebeam Revu
- Large Format printer support drivers
- AMD drivers
- Steam VR
I can run outlook and MS 365 in a browser so it’s really the other stuff I need functional to be able to switch.–
I use mint and only had one game so far with a problem. The game was 20 years old and couldn’t scale to an ultrawide monitor.
So far most things just work. Except the locked streaming services that force anti-Linux. For that I just sail the high seas.
I wish I could just keep upvoting this.
I’ll add, want to see your average person roll their eyes and say “nope”, just tell them they have to manually edit a bunch of config files to get going. How much about your car do you need to know to start your car and get somewhere?
But why even care if some random loser gets fucked by Microsoft? It’s like the religious idiots out there who don’t believe in global warming and hate trans people: you can’t deprogram stupid. It’s like waging a war against bears taking a shit in rivers.
I don’t understand why Linux users are like this.
Elite smugness
It’s an operating system, you fucking dweeb. Your weird moralizing only alienates potential users. And guess what? Without users, a thing dies.
Linux has plenty of users who appreciate it for what it is, not how you can make it look and act like Windows. Linux doesn’t need those people.
Linux bros have been told this for literally decades. They’ll never get it. As long as I can’t use my air pods or even the built in fingerprint reader for my laptop, plug and play, I won’t even try making the switch.
Linux is serverware with a barely working GUI and people are still talking about “just switch”.
Did you give it a try recently?
I agree with the first part of what you said, but I disagree with your last sentence.
I have been using Linux on my desktop PCs and laptops since 2017 and it’s been working great for me, even playing games. Honestly, I probably play more games on Linux than I did back when I was on Windows lol
My airpods and fingerprint reader (framework 16) work fine on Fedora, sometimes it just be like that.
Linux is everywhere and doing everything already. Windows only continues to exist because business majors are in charge and they are fucking dumb.
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Former Win10 user here, also a former MS employee, now on Mint. I never even heard of Recall but holy crap on a cracker, Microsoft - seriously? SERIOUSLY?
You guys have absolutely lost your fucking minds. My advice is to make Microsoft great again by quitting and forming a bunch of startups, where you can work on innovations that are actually good and useful. For the sake of your own sanity.
Let me also tell you a story about them dumping windows mixed reality…
I firmly believe this will go the way of Cortana once the AI bubble bursts. What I’m more concerned about is the normalization of terrible security and privacy practices.
Windows is awful. Why do you want that decaying ship with rotten wood to float?
I wouldn’t be surprised if they get a class action suit over security/data violations.
Hey copilot - what was that website I found with the sweet ass interracial stepsibling fuckin? You know the one where that sis’s ass popped just the right way? Not the one with the first-cousins. I gotta draw the line somewhere. I mean, that was ALSO great porn but I have pre-postnut clarity here and that kind of shit just aint what I need right now.
Disable Recall with these instructions:
https://oracle-base.com/blog/2024/11/10/windows-recall-how-to-disable-spy-mode/
Just stop using Windows and you will not have to deal with it, for now.
I’m certain this can be disabled in windows at any moment as without it loads and loads of criminal evidence would be available for discovery and litigation against the wealthiest people and businesses across the world.
A real fear is being a worker in a world with micromanagers inspecting your workweek, 3 second snapshots at a time.
Microsoft turns things back on all the time though. It doesn’t matter what you set if they can unset it whenever they want.
Windows as is, is a valid, fast and private OS. The lack is that it is by default a bundleware, full of telemetries, spyware, services which nobody needs, trials and other crap “to improve the user experience”. All this can be gutted by an advanced user. The alternastive for those which need use Windows, is to install one of the WindowsX series, an independent modification and optimization, without all these M$ crap.
valid, fast and private OS wut?
Yes, as said, the problem isn’t the OS as is, it’s all the crap, spy- and bloatware which M$ put in it.
@Zerush @muusemuuse all of that “crap, spy- and bloatware” is baked into the OS and the only reliable way to remove it isn’t not use Windows.
The problem is 100% the OS.
It isn’t, I use currently W11 24H2 with less than 0,9GB on disk, no unwanted nettraffic shown in Portmaster. Full BOOT in less than 5 seconds and snappy responses. No problems with it, no unwanted apps in the updates or other issues. This certainly wasn’t the case as default in my new laptop. Well “un-microsofted” Windows, not even with it’s original UI.
Tools that claim to lighten windows are almost always riddled with malware. You should never ever trust them. Those project build a base of loyal users, then change and add in malware later, compromising the system.
Windows is not a system you modify like that. It’s actually surprisingly Mac like in how you have to handle it. Be responsible. Build an OS up and out, bow down and back.
The hellzerg Optimizer is FOSS and well known since years, do not confuse with proprietary tools, like those from IObit or Ashampoo, these are certainly not recommended. Anyway, also with the default Windows GodMode you can do a lot, also with the Regedit, if you know well what you do (somewhat risky)
Quick way of accomplishing the “de-bloating” of windows is by 1) managing your own DNS and blocking telemetry connections network wide (quite easy to do with PiHole + Docker Engine) or 2) installing Glasswire and blocking connections on the specific device however, I believe Glasswires Firewall is subscription based so this may be a turn-off for people.
Either work and are more efficient than digging around your Windows install and finding all the different variants of the same bloatware.
I use Portmaster, there go nothing in or out without my permissions.
Ah I figured Portmaster was only for Linux, I dabbled around their software and found it quite good!
I think the reason I stopped using it in lieu of OpenSnitch was because 1) most features were locked behind a subscription and 2) already had PiHole running so the firewall wasn’t something I really needed.
Regardless thanks for letting me know it works for Windows, I’ll started recommending it over Glasswire!
There are no need of subscriptions in Portmaster, it’s FOSS. Well, the subscription is only if you want to use additional also the inbuild SPN service (optional service), which need an paid subscription like any good VPN (server cost money). I Prefer to use Portmaster over Pi-Hole, because Portmaster permits per app settings, Pi-Hole don’tm apart is way easier to setup, with already a good default settings, its almost download it, run install and peace. Then maybe open it, browse your listed apps and block their traffic if needed with an click.
Simplewall works quite well too! And it’s free.
Windows has a built in firewall, so why install a paid one?
Not nearly as user friendly for the non-networking types hence why I recommend one with a fancy GUI.
Edit: Also, I suspect Microsoft will do Microsoft things and hide/prevent their telemetry from being blocked, ultimately I don’t know the state of Windows right now as I’ve made the switched to Linux many years ago.
I don’t see anywhere where I can see the source code of that build. Not saying it’s a bad project just that I’d like more transparency.
I’m more trusting of the debloat scripts that I can read and inspect. https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat
Well, there are several methodes, WinX is one of the options and naturally can’t be OpenSource, because Windows isn’t, even not in this debloated version. As you said, there are several FOSS tools to do it, maybe the best is the hellzerg Optimizer, very capable to eliminate the bad Windows habits and apart improving the system-
All this can be gutted by an advanced user.
Windows is malware. If you give the slightest shit about your privacy, switch ASAP
Is ASAP Linux a variant of Asahi that I’m not hip enough to get?
Just made the switch to ZorinOS (aesthetics + pre installed FOSS). Couldn’t be happier. My laptop is shockingly silent and cool even when I’m running multiple apps.
It’s incredible how much processor windows telemetry uses.
Even when I put it to sleep. I feel like I own my laptop again after I kicked Windows out of it.
Took this crap off my computer and installed Fedora as my daily. If I need to run windows I’ll run it in a VM.
When I originally switched, I kept an ultra clean windows 2000 VM going for a solid decade. Any time I needed it, I could install stuff, do the work, and then blow away the crud that always builds up with Windows. I would suggest using the oldest version of Windows you can practically use, de-bloating it, and taking vm snapshots.
You could even firewall it using another VM or the host if you wanted. Put windows in jail, erase its memory, and cut it off from the outside world so it behaves, lol.
I have yet to need Windows for anything and I switched when my WinXP machine decided booting was too difficult.
Fedora’s like the Windows of Linux.
No it’s not
Yes huh.
What aspects then? You can’t just throw out a baseless statement without justification and think others will agree with you.
Why would you assume I expect others to agree with me?
