Pudutr0n

I understand what you say, and yeah I get it. I’m sorry shit’s so rough for you guys right now too. The way I see it, decadence is always about the ruling classes. There are times where they are more about honor and the good of the nation, and there are times when they are just about luxury, pleasure, themselves and nothing more. That is what I consider decadence.

Not a bad idea but keep in mind you’ll also potentially be adding yourself to lists. i assume i just ended up in a few databases i’d rather not be in by doing this snooping alone. Hard to tell the sheep from the wolves. I’m not an american though and my country isn’t currently on “hardcore mode” political setting. Stay safe, friend.

It really does.

I’d go with buycott until something better appears tbh. I’m gonna see how it works for me. Too tired to keep snooping for today.

Yes this sounds right and it also makes sense.

Buycott seems promising cause campaigns and boycott lists are user-driven (which, you know… could also be faked I guess) and haven’t found anything fishy in their policies yet, but still snooping around on them. Gonna look into their ownership now.

Edit:

So umm… apparently Buycott was founded by a random 20 something year old LA dev (Ivan Pardo), a 2008 CS guy from Colgate University who basically coded it on his own. Boycott’s social media has been inactive since 2016.

Their business model is they sell access to their barcode API, which basically means they sell the pics of the barcodes and the product descriptions people add voluntarily to companies to do what they want. Not great but you know… better than digital marketing services.

Buycott is related to solidarity tech, which Ivan Pardo also founded, and is a CRM who claims to be “helping unions & grassroots organizations build people-powered movements that transform society…” which could be legit. They’re not free and they’re not cheap and they claim to cater to unions, advocacy orgs and non profits… but idk. Am I full paranoid delusional or does this sound like a honeytrap kinda thing? Like if I was an evil right wing politician this is exactly the kind of company I’d want to have leverage over to be able to sabotage opposition. And we don’t know who Pardo’s partners are. Only that he’s founder.

Oh, also, solidarity tech openly claims they give their customer info to Google analytics in their terms, which, you know… Kinda concerning when your “I’ll handle your grass roots movement” software sees no reason to not freely give your information to the most blatant and thinly veiled CIA front in contemporary history.

In their webpage they say they are “Trusted by Progressive Campaigns and Causes” and name a full total of 5 clients: Debt Collective, UAW, Pilipino Workers Central and CWA. As a non american I don’t know what these things are…

idk I don’t trust them. But I’m also running out of options at this point. Might as well use something. They seem like the best so far.

I checked out boycat.io

Searched a bunch of “everyone knows they’re bad” companies and the info they provided seemed accurate, reasonable and well sourced.

However, their business model seems kinda fishy. first of all they sell “I’m a nice company” certifications, which in itself s a conflict of interest, but especially if you can’t find who the owners of boycat are anywhere on the site or the internet, their whois information is private and if you look at their privacy policy, they allow themselves the right to track “usage data” (i.e. what you scanned) and “location data” which they later allow themselves to “share” with “service providers”, which are “companies providing hosting, data analysis, marketing, customer service, and technical support.”… so umm… Yeah. Basically same conflict of interest as the other company, but less explicit.

And again,. not once do they say who owns them, how they started or is behind them nor do they provide an explanation on why they don’t talk about themselves… Cause I could understand well intending devs trying to keep private to stop companies from threatening them, but tell the community this is why you don’t share your info. Their contact us doesn’t work either.

I would really like to see something community driven but i guess big companies could infiltrate something like that easily. I’ll look into other solutions and let you know if i find anything promising.

ps: 90% of their news were about Israel-palestine, which, you know… OK, good and important but ummm… I’d also like to know about other stuff.

Sure. Mentioning them helped me remember i have to get my act together regarding who i give my money to, so even if they’re evil now something good may have come from using and naming them. Thanks for the reminder. I needed it.

I found the thing you mentioned a good idea so I googled the app to find out how they decided who should or should not be boycotted. I landed their homepage and it said they offered digital marketing solutions.

I’d love to use something like that if community driven but sounds like an important conflict of interest.

I don’t see why decadence is not an accurate conceptualization for everything you’re describing.

That’s horrible but yeah… sounds right.

It is the norm for companies in most if not all major stock exchanges. They have to report activities and earnings to stockholders.

Dolphins and killer whales are capable of all the things you describe. So are all great apes. Chimpanzees are capable of genocide. It’s not even human nature. It’s just nature.

Are you familiar with Dunbar’s number? The problem isn’t how people organize, it’s how many people organize. You get groups too big, the human empathy module short circuits and starts ignoring other humans as such…

You know what other animals can organize in large collaborative groups and not fight each other? Ants, bees and mole rats. Eusocial animals.

The problem with eusocial animals is they divide into genetically determined castes… So nature has shown us it’s either small packs or become a drone for the hive, and the problem with small pack is that larger packs destroy them.

I hope you’re right.

haha why not?

Technically, you’d be right though.

But yes, I ignored nuance. Would you like to talk about nuance?

I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not, but that is what I actually think. Like, that’s just what empires do imo. Sharks can be pretty brutal to smaller fish. Empires are brutal to smaller nations. It’s just how it works. Nothing personal, the way I see it. vOv

Yes, I am.

Your democracy is falling apart because of it is an empire in late decadence. Its systems of checks and balances are collapsing.

The world is getting more war friendly because as dominant empires fall apart internally, nations want to do stuff they weren’t allowed to when the big bad empire had more control.

This is all part of the natural life cycle of empires. Best case scenario is they fizzle out with protection from another empire, like Great Britain did. Worst case scenario is really bad.

Expect to see more of this kind of thing in the future. Might be a good time to consider going somewhere else, cause things could get really ugly. These problems are terminal and at this point it doesn’t really matter who gets elected. It’ll keep falling apart. I say this with sadness. My country also got screwed by the USA, but if it hadn’t it would have been some other empire. Such is the life of the small poor nation.

I’m sorry, but I think it’s important to see this for what it is and to adapt.

Those poor advertising service providers!