NoneOfUrBusiness

Small correction (???): According to the article they were visiting as part of a parliamentarian delegation. Now I have no idea what that is, but it doesn’t sound like a private trip. Is it a private trip?

I was using government in the broad sense (under which a Congressman would be a US government official) but fair enough.

Uh… what? They’re literally Members of Parliament.

Arresting officials from the ruling government of one of your closest allies is… definitely a strat. Good job Israel, looking forward to more self-owns in the future.

Are they just high on their own hasbara supply?

Israeli behavior makes a lot more sense when you realize that they’re fascists. Israel has been fascist for at least 75 years, so them being divorced from reality is nothing unexpected.

At this point it’s a movement that has to grow until everyone knows even if they keep trying to bury their heads in the sand. It needs to show the billionaire owned media that they are powerless to suppress the truth.

True, but more than growth action is necessary here. Protests are ultimately advertisements for your movement and a show of force; without an implied threat behind them (such as “abdicate or we’ll literally lynch you”) they’re very ignorable no matter how many people you get on board. What I’m trying to say is: More than grow the movement needs to evolve from marches and into full-blown civic resistance.

Which means this statement delegitimizes the ICC therefore degrading western interests, so it real damn idiotic for the leader of Belgium to say this since it’s essentially the capital of “the west”!

So… Uh… That rules based international order never had much legitimacy in the first place. Basically everyone outside the West knew it was window dressing for the very much unchanged might makes right stuff. Israel in particular has ignored that shit for ages so… uh… yeah.

Yeah how many of these signs say anything about the bombing of Yemenis? It’s all domestic policy stuff with—I assume—a dash of Gaza.

Is a federation of different platforms not possible? Warning: I know absolutely nothing about this.

They constantly lie about what happens and have been for years if not decades.

The last time they said the truth about Palestine is when they called themselves colonists in the 20s.

I don’t. I’m telling you now Americans will see these protests (which are projected to number in the tens of thousands according to the article), compare numbers and say “See? We’re doing such a good job resisting!”.

You: appartheid is cool actually

There are bad things other than fascism.

A strongman leader protecting the in group.

The fuck? No that’s not what fascism is. I mean even if it was that’s not what most religion-based states now or throughout history are, but even if it was that’s literally not what fascism is. The central tenet of fascism is worship of the state and active, escalating persecution of an outgroup to persuade an ingroup to willingly give up their freedom. Fascism, unlike most other state ideologies, does not seek equilibrium; it is always starved for an Enemy to exploit and persecute in increasingly harmful ways to satisfy the ingroup, which is why it inevitably collapses. This dynamic is core to fascism as a concept, and noticeably absent from most states throughout history—religious or otherwise—because running full speed ahead towards collapse just isn’t a smart way to set up a state.

To repeat: You said that fascism is a strongman leader protecting the ingroup, but that’s not true; fascism requires the strongman leader to go on the offensive in order to chase a made up vision of greatness for the ingroup and keep that up permanently.

That’s not what an ethnostate is, but either way that’s not the point. Treating people differently according to what they believe in isn’t “nothing short of fascism” and “a way to suppress and mass murder anyone and anything that doesn’t please the Führer(s)”. Having legal discrimination doesn’t make a state fascist, because that’s literally not what fascism is. It’s not even a useful way to analyze the behavior of states today or historically.

Or more fascist, who knows?

Oh yeah fair enough, recently they use Judaism too.

and throughout world history it has been well established that religion in general will be used by those in power to accomplish their goals. sometimes those people are willing to kill in the name of said goals or beliefs.

Yeah but “Religion as a concept and religious states are nothing short of fascism”? “A way to suppress and mass murder anyone and anything that doesn’t please the Führer”? Setting aside the ridiculousness of this take in and of itself, it’s incredibly reductive. What’s the difference between the Abbasid Caliphate, the Holy Roman Empire and the French Empire? Well it doesn’t matter because they’re all nothing short of literally fascist!

Militant atheists will never cease to amaze me with the nonsense they come up with (and how they say “religion” but can only think of Christianity as an example).

It’s always been like this, but more importantly: The IDF aren’t (at least primarily) terrorists; they’re a Jewish Wehrmacht launching a war of extermination on the people of Gaza. Calling that terrorism implies that they’re equal to Hamas rather than subjecting Palestinians one of the worst crimes a state can commit.

I’m saying right now, as in in March/April 2025.

Edit: If you mean the “never cared enough to do anything about it” part, going to a protest once doesn’t qualify as “doing anything about it”. I don’t know if this is due to lack of will or because Americans straight up forgot how to hold their government accountable, but if it was that much of a big deal they’d have figured something out.

They’ve never cared enough to actually do anything about it, but there was at least grumbling and complaints. Right now I’m not hearing a peep.

This article talks more about the ammunition than the actual people being killed. Man I hate imperialist media. Also is the American public just… fine with bombing brown people in the Middle East now? Did they ever care?